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THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
August 3, 2015
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT AT THE YOUNG AFRICAN LEADERS INITIATIVE PRESIDENTIAL SUMMIT TOWN HALL
Omni Shoreham Hotel
Washington, D.C. 
11:15 A.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT:  Well, hello, everybody!  (Applause.)
AUDIENCE:  Happy birthday to you!  Happy birthday to you!  Happy birthday, Mr. President, happy birthday to you!  (Applause.)  
THE PRESIDENT:  Thank you.  Everybody sit down.  Thank you so much.  
(Applause.)  Well, this is a good crowd here!  (Applause.)  First of 
all, can everybody please give Grace another big round of applause.  
(Applause.)  Not only does she do incredibly inspiring work in Nigeria, 
but I have to say, following Grace is a little bit like following 
Michelle.  (Laughter.)  She’s so good that you kind of feel bad when 
you’re walking out, because you’re thinking, I’m not going to be that 
good.  (Laughter.)  But she’s just one example of the incredible talent 
that’s in this room.  
And to all of you, I know that you’ve been here in the United States 
for just a few weeks, but let me say on behalf of the American people, 
welcome to the United States.  We are thrilled to have you here.  
(Applause.)   
And your visit comes at a perfect time, because, yes, it’s soon my 
birthday and that’s a very important thing.  (Laughter.) But that’s not 
the main reason it’s a perfect time.  The main reason is because, as 
many of you know, I just returned from Africa.  And it was my fourth 
trip to sub-Saharan Africa, more than any other U.S. President.  And I 
was proud to be the first U.S. President to visit Kenya, — (applause) — 
the first to visit Ethiopia, — (applause) — the first to address the 
African Union, which was a great honor.  (Applause.)     
And the reason I’ve devoted so much energy to our work with the 
continent is, as I said last week, even as Africa continues to confront 
many challenges, Africa is on the move.  It’s one of the fastest-growing
 regions in the world.  Africa’s middle class is projected to grow to 
more than one billion consumers.  With hundreds of millions of mobile 
phones and surging access to the Internet, Africans are beginning to 
leapfrog old technologies into new prosperity.  The continent has 
achieved historic gains in health, from fighting HIV/AIDS to making 
childbirth safer for women and babies.  Millions have been lifted from 
extreme poverty.  So this is extraordinary progress.    
And young people like you are driving so much of this progress — 
because Africa is the youngest continent.  I saw the power of youth on 
my trip.  In Kenya, Richard Ruto Todosia helped build Yes Youth Can, one
 of the county’s most prominent civil society groups, with over one 
million members.  At the Global Entrepreneurship Summit in Nairobi, 
Shadi Sabeh spoke about how he started Brilliant Footsteps Academy in 
Nigeria, which uses education to fight religious extremism and provide 
more opportunities for Muslim youth.  I met Judith Owigar, an 
entrepreneur who co-founded a nonprofit that trains young women living 
in the slums of Nairobi in computer programming and graphic design — and
 then helps place them in tech jobs. 
So I saw the talent of young people all across the continent.  And as
 President, I want to make sure that even as we’re working with 
governments, we’re also helping to empower young Africans like all of 
you.  And that’s why I launched YALI  — Young African Leaders Initiative
 — (applause) — to help you access the resources and the training and 
the networks that you need to become the next generation of leaders in 
all areas — in civil society, in business, in government.  
And the response has been overwhelming.  So far, more than 140,000 
young people across Africa have joined our YALI network  — so young 
Africans with new ideas can connect with each other, and collaborate and
 work together to put their plans into action. And I want to welcome all
 of the YALI network members across Africa who are watching this town 
hall today.  I’m proud of all of you.  I’m proud that we’ve made so much
 progress together, after just a few years.  (Applause.)  
And last year, I said we’d launch a new set of tools for our YALI 
network.  So today, we’ve got more than 30 online lessons available on 
everything from public speaking to how to write a business plan, 
mentoring, new ways to network across Africa, around the world, new 
training sessions, meetings with experts on how to launch a startup.  
And we’re launching three new online Mandela Washington Fellowship 
Institute courses so that all members of the YALI network can access 
some of the great ideas that you’ve been sharing. 
Last year, I said that we would create YALI Regional Leadership 
Centers across Africa to provide skills, networks, and opportunities to 
even more young African leaders.  And in Kenya, I had a chance to visit 
the Regional Leadership Center in Nairobi.  Just this morning, we opened
 a new center in Accra.  And two more will be opened by the end of the 
year — in Pretoria and in Dakar.  (Applause.)    
Last year, I said we would do even more to support young 
entrepreneurs with grants to help you start a business or nonprofit, and
 with new training for thousands of aspiring entrepreneurs in small 
towns and rural areas.  So at the recent Global Entrepreneurship Summit 
in Nairobi, I announced that we secured more than $1 billion in new 
commitments from banks and philanthropists to support emerging 
entrepreneurs around the world, including in Africa — with half the 
money going to support women and young people.  (Applause.)  
And last year, I welcomed our first class of Mandela Fellows.  This 
year, the response was overwhelming again — nearly 30,000 applied.  And 
today I’m honored to welcome you, the second Mandela Washington Fellows 
class.  We’re on track to double the Mandela Washington Fellowship 
program to 1,000 fellows by next year.  (Applause.)    
And I know you’ve been busy.  Over the past few weeks, at schools and
 businesses all across America, you’ve been taking courses, developing 
the skills you’ll need to make your ideas a reality, so that you’re able
 to continue the great work that you’re already doing, but take it to 
the next level. 
That’s what Brian Bwembya of Zambia plans to do.  Where’s Brian?  
Where is he?  (Applause.)  There he is right there.  So Brian uses music
 to advocate against things like gender-based violence and to educate 
youth on HIV/AIDS.  (Applause.)  So while in the U.S., he’s learned 
about our health care system, met the founder of an American HIV/AIDS 
organization, and now he plans to start a record label for music about 
social change.  So, Brian, we’re proud to be your partner.  (Applause.) 
 
Or we’ve got Kadijah Diallo of Guinea.  Where is Kadijah?  
(Applause.)  There she is.  So Kadijah helped lead UNICEF’s media 
campaign to stop the spread of Ebola.  And with the management skills 
that she gained at Wagner College, she wants to work on improving the 
lives of women and girls back home in Guinea.  So we are proud to be 
your partner.  (Applause.)      
Or we’ve got Jamila Mayanja of Uganda.  Are you posing?  (Laughter.) 
 She’s posing.  Jamila is not a fashion model — that’s not — (laughter) —
 she started a door-to-door laundry company to employ more youth and 
teach them entrepreneurial skills.  And she hopes to take what she 
learned during her time at Dartmouth University to meet her goal of 
getting 1,000 youth to work in or run their own business.  So we’re 
proud to be your partner, Jamila.  (Applause.)  
So that’s just a sampling of the incredible projects that are being 
done by fellows all across Africa.  So this program is going to help all
 of you make a real difference back home.  
But Fatou Ba Ndiour from Senegal — (applause) — where’s Fatou?  So 
Fatou wrote me a letter and she said, if the real value of YALI is for 
young people to learn from others, then maybe we should start sending 
some young Americans to Africa also.  (Applause.)  And she made the 
point, not just to help poor communities as they usually do, “but to 
learn from other societies, with humility” — which I thought is 
absolutely true.  
So I have good news, Fatou.  From now on, YALI will give Americans an
 opportunity.  (Applause.)  Next summer, up to 80 young American leaders
 will join YALI and go to Africa to learn from you and your countries.  
(Applause.)  And you guys are going to have to look after them when 
they’re there.  (Laughter.)  Show them good places — but not to have too
 much fun.  (Laughter.)  They need to be doing some work while they’re 
there.
So these connections and partnerships and friendships, they forge an 
understanding that brings our peoples closer together.  After six weeks 
here, some of you are now officially Texas Longhorns or Notre Dame 
Fighting Irish.  (Applause.)  You’ve shared African cooking with your 
American friends, but you’ve also had a burger and a hotdog at Fourth of
 July celebrations.  (Laughter.)  I’m told many of you went bowling for 
the first time.
AUDIENCE:  Yes!
THE PRESIDENT:  I hear it didn’t go that well.  (Laughter.) There 
were a few strikes.  By the way, there was at least one marriage that 
came out of last year’s class.  (Applause.)   So who knows what might 
happen here.  (Laughter.)  
So as your time in America comes to a close, I want you to remember 
this is really just the beginning.  We just started this.  And the truth
 is that our greatest challenges — whether it’s inclusive development, 
or confronting terrorism, dealing with conflict, climate change, 
increasing women’s rights, children’s rights — these are bigger than any
 one nation or even one continent.  
Our hope is, is that 10, 15, 20 years from now, when you’ve all gone 
on to be ministers in government, or leaders in business, or pioneers of
 social change, that you’ll still be connecting with each other, that 
you’ll still be learning from each other, and that together, you’ll be 
reaching back and helping the next generation — that you’ll not only be 
making a difference in your own countries, but you’ll be the foundation 
of a new generation of global leadership, a generation that’s going to 
be working together across borders to make the world safer and more 
prosperous and more peaceful and more just.  That’s my hope for you.
We’ve brought you here because we benefit from your leadership, but 
we’re counting on you to work together to make sure that you’re also 
reaching back to those who are going to be coming behind you.  Couldn’t 
be prouder of you.
So with that, let me take some questions, all right?  Thank you very much.  (Applause.)  
All right.  So here are the — I think you’ve been told how this 
works, but I’m going to just repeat it.  I’m just going to call on as 
many people as possible.  When I call on you, introduce yourself, tell 
me what country you’re from.  Make your question relatively short — 
(laughter) — so that we can get as many questions in as possible.  And 
I’m going to go boy, girl, boy, girl — to make sure that it’s fair.  All
 right?  Okay.  So let me see who I’m going to start off with.  This is 
all such a good-looking group.  I’m going to start with this young lady 
right here.  Right here.  Right in the middle.  Yes, there you go — with
 the African earrings.  Very appropriate.
Q    I’m from Kenya.
THE PRESIDENT:  Habari?  
Q    Mzuri sana.  Yes.  And my question is, I’m curious how you keep 
the balance in terms of your background as an African American and the 
kind of struggles you’ve had to get over to get here — and being to 
married Michelle Obama — she’s powerful and amazing — and as a father, 
as a husband.  But you seem to not let that interfere with your work, 
and you’ve been effective.  So how do you keep the balance?  
THE PRESIDENT:  Well, first of all, I wouldn’t be who I was without 
Michelle.  So she’s my partner.  (Applause.)  That’s true 
professionally, but that’s true in terms of my character and who I am.  
One of the things I’m very proud of is the fact that I married someone 
who is strong, and talented, and opinionated, and my equal.  And part of
 the reason why that’s so important to me is because she’s the role 
model now for my daughters.  And so Malia and Sasha, they have 
expectations of being strong and talented, and being treated as an equal
 by their partners as they get older — much older.  (Laughter.)  
The balance — I’ve written about this.  The balance isn’t always 
perfect.  I think one of the things that my generation, but now even 
more your generation, has to manage is, if you have two people working 
in the house, outside the home, how do you manage that in a way that 
we’re both good parents, we’re both able to succeed in our work.  And 
what Michelle and I found was that we had to recognize that at any given
 point in our careers, one person might sacrifice a little bit — maybe 
this was a time that she really had to focus on something, and so I had 
to cover for her more.  There were times where I was able to do 
something and she had to handle things more.
Now, I’m not suggesting that it’s been completely equal, because I’m 
the first one to acknowledge that she’s probably made more sacrifices, 
given the nature of a political career, than I have.  But what I’ve 
learned from her is that if she doesn’t feel respected and fulfilled, 
then I’m going to end up being less successful, ultimately.  And that’s 
something that I think that men in Africa, in particular — men 
everywhere — (laughter) — but men in Africa — I’ve spoken about this a 
lot.  The best measure of how a country does economically in terms of 
development is how does it treat its women.  (Applause.)  
And as I said in a speech — a couple of the speeches that I gave 
while I was in Kenya and Ethiopia — if you’re mistreating your women, 
then you’re just holding yourself back, you’re holding yourself down.  
You may have some false sense of importance, but ultimately you don’t 
benefit if women are being discriminated against, because that means 
when they’re working, your family is going to have less income.  If 
they’re not educated, that means your children are less likely to be 
well educated, because, typically, the mother is the first educator of a
 child.  So if they see you disrespecting your wife, then what lesson is
 your — not just your girls, but what lessons are your sons learning 
from you?  
And so this is something that I really think everybody, especially 
the young generation of African men, have to learn and internalize.  And
 I want to see more men creating peer pressure among themselves.  If you
 see a friend of yours, a classmate, one of your buddies abusing a 
woman, you have to say something.  You have to ostracize them and say 
that’s not acceptable.  Because, ultimately, this is not just an issue 
of laws — although here in the United States we’re still fighting for 
equal pay for equal work; we’re still fighting to make sure that women 
have the same opportunities as men — but it’s also a matter of culture 
and what our expectations are.  And your generation is going to have to 
change expectations.  
You do not lift yourself up by holding somebody else down.  And 
that’s especially true within your own family and the people that you’re
 closest to.  (Applause.) 
All right.  That young men right there, in the striped shirt.  Yes, you.  
Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  I am from Rwanda.  (Applause.)    
THE PRESIDENT:  You have a little cheering section here.  (Laughter.)  Got the flags.
Q    Mr. President, there is a big problem of climate change, and 
research has showed that Africa will be the most vulnerable continent to
 climate change in the next decades.  Africa is the continent which is 
responsible to climate change mitigation, and it is reducing the 
greenhouse gases and the global warming.  And I saw that Africa was the 
last continent to get the funding for climate change mitigation and 
adaptation.  So my question is to ask you what is the plan of the United
 States of America to empower Africa so that our community can adapt 
themselves to the climate change in the next future?  Thank you. 
(Applause.) 
THE PRESIDENT:  Well, first of all, this generation has to understand
 that climate change is going to be one of the critical issues that you 
face.  Now, oftentimes you’ll hear people say, well, environmental 
issues, climate change, we don’t have time to worry about that right now
 because we have much more urgent issues — we have to educate our 
children, we have to feed people, we have to develop — maybe later we 
can worry about environmental issues — which I understand why a lot of 
African countries and poorer countries in Asia or Latin America or other
 places would say that, because historically, that’s basically what the 
United States and developed countries did.  
The United States used to be terribly polluted.  If you went to Los 
Angeles, you couldn’t — it was like Beijing is now.  It was very hard to
 breathe if you ran outside.  You had lakes and rivers that were so 
polluted that one of them caught fire.  (Laughter.)  That’s serious; 
that’s some pollution there.  The same is true in London when London was
 first developing during the Industrial Revolution, because of all the 
coal that was being burned, and the soot.  
Here’s the problem.  Whether it’s fair or not, the issue of climate 
change is not like traditional environmental issues in the sense that’s 
it’s just isolated in one area.  Global climate change will affect 
everybody.  And because the changes could be so severe, frankly, the 
countries that are most likely to be adversely affected are the poorer 
countries because they have less margin for error.
So if you have changing weather patterns in, let’s say, the Indian 
Subcontinent, and the monsoon rains shift, suddenly you could have 
millions of people whose crops completely fail.  Well, the same is true 
in Africa — if rain patterns and drought starts changing, subsistence 
farmers are completely vulnerable.  If you are in coastal communities, 
and the oceans begin to rise, millions of people could be displaced.
So this is something that everybody is going to have to take 
seriously.  Now, what we’re going to be doing is, here in the United 
States, we are initiating some of the most aggressive action to start 
reducing the emission of carbon that produces climate change.  There’s 
going to be a Paris conference later this year in which we’re organizing
 China and other countries that are big carbon emitters to participate, 
and set targets for reduction of carbon pollution.
Now, Africa, per capita, doesn’t produce that much carbon.  So some 
African countries have said, well, why should we have to do anything?  
Well, the answer is, is that you have to project where you’re going to 
be 20 years from now or 30 years from now. If you get locked in now in, 
for example, the way you producing energy that’s producing a lot of 
carbon, given the youth of Africa and its rising population, you could 
end up being the major carbon emitter if you don’t take plans now.
So what we’re saying is, learn from our mistakes and find new, 
sustainable ways of generating energy that don’t produce carbon.  
When I was in Nairobi, I highlighted the work we’re doing with 
something called Power Africa, which has generated billions of dollars 
with the goal of electrification throughout sub-Saharan Africa. But 
part of what we’re trying to encourage countries to do is don’t 
automatically take the old models; think about new models of energy 
production, and try to leapfrog over the old models.
So, for example, with solar energy, we were looking at solar panels 
that you could send into rural areas, put on the roof of a hut, and for 
the same price per day that people are purchasing kerosene, they could 
have a small — solar panels and pack that generates light and provides 
what they need.  And in fact, it will pay for itself in a year, and then
 they’ll save money after that.  
And so, in the same way that you’ve seen banking and financial 
transactions off smartphones, cellphones, leapfrogging some of the old 
ways of doing business in advanced countries, the same has to be true 
for energy.  And we want to encourage new models.  We are going to be 
providing — the United States and other wealthier countries are going to
 be providing billions of dollars in money for adaptation and 
mitigation.  But what’s more urgent is how do we create the energy 
that’s needed for Africa’s growth and development in a way that does not
 make the problem worse, but instead makes the problem better.
All right?  (Applause.)  Okay, this young lady right here.  You’ve got the mic coming.
Q    Hello.  I’m from Mauritania and I’m 23 years old.  So my 
question is simple:  You, as a President, and you as a citizen — a U.S. 
citizen, will you, after leaving the White House, keep up this program? 
 Because we still need it.  (Applause.)  
THE PRESIDENT:  Yes.  It is a simple question, and I’ve got a simple 
answer:  Yes.  (Applause.)  Now, here’s what we’re going to try to do.  
We want to institutionalize the program so that the next President and 
future Presidents and the United States government continue to sustain 
the program.  (Applause.)  So that’s going to be important.
And since I still have this job for the next 18 months, I haven’t 
been completely focused on what I’m going to do afterwards.  (Laughter.)
  The first thing I’m probably going to do is I’m going to catch up on 
my sleep.  (Laughter.)  So I’m going to do that for a couple months.  
(Laughter.)  But I can guarantee you that one of the things I’m 
interested in doing when I leave office is to continue to create these 
platforms for young leadership across the globe, to network, get 
relationships, to work together, to learn with each other.  (Applause.) 
 
And by the way, it’s not just in Africa.  So we’ve set up a young 
leaders program in Asia.  We’re doing the same thing in Latin America.  
Because the goal is, eventually I want not only for there to be a 
network of thousands of young African leaders who know each other across
 borders, are sharing best practices, sharing ideas, but I also want you
 to know young leaders in Indonesia, or young leaders in Chile, or young
 leaders around the globe.  
Because I said before, ultimately you’re going to be global leaders, 
not just leaders in your own country.  It begins in your own countries 
where you can make your mark, but one of the powerful things about 
technology and the Internet right now is you can learn and forge 
relationships and learn best practices from everyplace.  So if you’re an
 advocate for women’s rights, and you’re doing great work in Nigeria, it
 may be that somebody in Burma can, on the Internet, see how you 
organized your campaign and how you were able to finance it and what you
 were able to accomplish, and suddenly what you’ve done in one country 
becomes a model for action all across the world.
So this is going to be a top priority of mine.  I will definitely continue to be involved in that.  All right?  (Applause.)  
Let’s see, I’ve got to call on a man now.  Let’s see.  Let’s see.  
I’m going to call on this guy right there.  Yes, you right there — just 
because I like that hat.  (Laughter.)  That’s a sharp-looking hat right 
there.  
Q    I come from Madagascar.  
THE PRESIDENT:  There you go.
Q    We Madagascar fellows are involved in the environmental 
entrepreneurship.  So what is the commitment of the United States 
towards young entrepreneurship and climate change?
THE PRESIDENT:  Well, as I said before, we are pledging — we’ve got a
 billion dollars for entrepreneurship; half of it we are going to direct
 towards women entrepreneurs and young people who are entrepreneurs, 
because they’ve been underrepresented in terms of access to capital.  
And as I mentioned to the young man earlier, the opportunities for 
entrepreneurship related to clean energy, related to conservation — 
which oftentimes, in a place like Madagascar, involves tourism and 
ecotourism — there’s huge potential there if it’s done properly.
So the key is, in some cases, just the access to financing. But part 
of what you’ve learned, hopefully, with YALI is part of it is also 
having a well-thought-out plan.  Now, not everybody can afford to go to a
 fancy business school and graduate and have all the credentials, but 
that doesn’t mean you don’t have a good idea.  And one of the things 
that we’re trying to do, particularly through online learning, is to 
create some of the basic concepts for how a business or a nonprofit can 
get started, how it can be properly managed, how you can do the 
accounting in a way that’s efficient.  We want to make sure that we are a
 continuing partner for you as you start your business and you learn.
And this is where these regional networks that we’re setting up is 
also useful, because not only will we have online learning but these 
regional hubs, initially in four regions of Africa, allow you to 
continue to network and access through the U.S. embassy, or the chambers
 of commerce, or private sector participants who are partnering with us,
 so that you can have hands-on mentoring and learning as you are 
developing your business plans, and as you’re trying to move forward.
The one thing, for those of you who are entrepreneurs or aspiring 
entrepreneurs, to remember is all around the world, even in the United 
States, not every idea succeeds.  So if you want to be an entrepreneur 
and start a business, you have to believe with all your heart that 
you’re going to succeed, but then when — and if — one of the businesses 
fails, you’ve got to be able to get up, dust yourself off, figure out 
what you’ve learned, and then start another business.  And eventually, 
it’s from continually refining your ideas and exploring what works and 
understanding what your market is and what consumers are looking for, 
that eventually, you have a chance to succeed.  
Okay.  It’s a young woman’s turn now.  Well, she’s just dancing over 
here, so we’ll have to call on her.  (Laughter.)  That doesn’t mean, by 
the way, everybody should dance.  (Laughter.)  I just wanted to point 
that out.  Go ahead.
Q    Mr. President, thank you.  I’m from Cameroon.  And I would like 
to find out if you will support Africa’s condition for permanency at the
 U.N. Security Council.  Thank you.  (Applause.) 
THE PRESIDENT:  So the Security Council was formed after World War 
II, and obviously the world and the balance of power around the world 
looked very different in 1945, 1946, ’47 than it does in 2015, ’16 and 
’17.  So the United States is supportive in concept of modifications to 
the structure of the United Nations Security Council.  I will be honest 
with you — how that happens, and how you balance all the equities is 
complicated.  As a matter of principle, I would think that there should 
at least be one representative from the African continent on the 
Security Council, along with representatives from the other regions of 
the world and some of the other powers that have emerged.  
I will tell you that — because, for example, Latin America does not 
have a country that’s represented — it does get complicated, because you
 have to figure out how — let me put it this way.  Everybody probably 
thinks they should be on it.  And so even in Africa, if you started 
saying, okay, let’s say we should have an African — is it South Africa? 
 Is it Nigeria?  Is it — see?  (Laughter.)  Uganda?  See?  Suddenly 
everybody was thinking, well, why not me?  The same is true in — Japan 
considers itself, as one of the largest economies in the world, 
suitable.  Brazil thinks it should be on.  India, the world’s largest 
democracy.
So we’re going to have to design a process whereby all these various 
legitimate arguments are sorted through.  But what I very much believe 
is that for the United Nations Security Council to be effective, it has 
to be more representative of all the various trend lines that have 
occurred over the last several decades.
One thing I will say, though, about the United Nations — everybody 
wants a seat at the table, but sometimes people don’t want the 
responsibilities of having a seat at the table.  And that’s happening 
even now.  And the one thing I’ve learned, both in my personal life and 
in my political life, is that if you want more authority, then you also 
have to be more responsible.  You can’t wear the crown if you can’t bear
 the cross.  
And oftentimes, in the United Nations — which I’m very committed to, 
and the agencies there do a lot of really critical important work — but 
when it comes to, okay, who’s going to actually step up and contribute 
to peacekeeping, who’s going to actually write a check when it comes to 
making sure that we’re dealing with the Ebola crisis, who’s going to 
show leadership in tackling climate change — are you willing to speak 
out on issues even when it contradicts your own interests, or when it’s 
politically hard, or when it’s uncomfortable — if you’re not willing to 
do those things, this is not just something where, okay, I got a 
membership key to the club and now I’m just going to show off how 
important I am.  And you see that sometimes.  This happens — and 
sometimes it happens at our own agencies.  
On human rights, when I was in Kenya, I said that it’s not enough for
 the United States always to be the heavy who has to point out that it’s
 unsuitable for leaders to ignore their constitution and try to cling on
 to power.  Their neighbors have to speak up as well, even if it’s 
uncomfortable.  (Applause.)  
So my attitude is, if you want to participate then you have to 
recognize that you have broader responsibilities.  And that’s something 
that the United States, by the way, for all our occasional mistakes or 
flaws, or our policies not perfect all the time, the one thing we do try
 to be is responsible.  If there’s an earthquake or a tornado or a 
hurricane somewhere, we’re there. We’re stepping up.  When Ebola 
happened, we stepped up, even when other people were kind of looking 
around and trying to figure out, well, I don’t know, what should we do?
And that is part of leadership.  That’s true, by the way, for you 
individually as well.  You have to be willing to take some risks and do 
some hard things in order to be a leader.  A leader is not just a name, a
 title, and privileges and perks.  
Let’s see, I think it’s a gentleman’s turn, isn’t it?  All right.  
This guy looks sharp, right here in the corner.  I mean, that’s a 
serious-looking coat.  Look at that.  (Applause.)  That’s a good-looking
 coat.  Don’t worry, I’ll call on somebody who’s just wearing a suit at 
some point.  (Laughter.)
Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  I’m from Cameroon.  So we are very 
grateful for the American leadership in our fight against violent 
extremism and the military response.  So my question is, what kind of 
engagement — what kind of support we can expect from you in building 
resilient communities, especially along the Sahel, where we are 
grappling with those issues?
THE PRESIDENT:  Well, this is something that’s very important.  Look,
 the sources of violence around the world are multiple.  And it’s 
important for us to recognize that, sadly, the human race has found 
excuses to kill each other for all sorts of reasons.  In the continent 
of Africa, oftentimes it’s been along ethnic and tribal lines.  It has 
nothing to do with religion; it has to do with you speak a slightly 
different language than me, or you look just a little bit different.  In
 Northern Ireland it was religious.  In other places, it just has to do 
with trying to gain power, or a majority group trying to impose its will
 on a minority group.  So there are all kinds of reasons for violence.  
But one of the phenomena that we are now seeing is a very specific 
promotion of violent extremism that oftentimes is twisting and 
distorting and, I think, ultimately, defying the edicts of one of the 
world’s greatest religions — Islam.  And it’s being exported and 
turbocharged through social media, and groups like al-Shabaab and ISIL 
and Boko Haram.  And the question is, how do we fight back against those
 ideologies in a way that allows us still to be true to the values of 
peace and tolerance and due process and rule of law.  
So the United States is obviously committed to this fight against 
terrorism.  And we are working with countries and partnering with 
countries all around the world to go after whether it’s al Qaeda, Boko 
Haram.  But what we’ve also said is in order to defeat these extremist 
ideologies, it can’t just be military, police and security.  It has to 
be reaching into communities that feel marginalized and making sure that
 they feel that they’re heard; making sure that the young people in 
those communities have opportunity.
And that’s why it’s so important to partner with civil society 
organizations in countries throughout Africa and around the world who 
can reach young people before ISIL reaches them, before al Shabaab 
reaches them, and inoculate them from the notion that somehow the 
solution to their alienation or the source of future opportunity for 
them is to go kill people.
And that’s why, when I was in Kenya, for example, and I did a town 
hall meeting there, I emphasized what I had said to President Kenyata — 
be a partner with the civil society groups. (Applause.)   Because too 
often, there’s a tendency — because what the extremist groups want to do
 is they want to divide.  That’s what terrorism is all about.  The 
notion is that you scare societies, further polarizes them.  The 
government reacts by further discriminating against a particular group. 
 That group then feels it has no political outlet peacefully to deal 
with their grievances.  And that then — that suppression can oftentimes 
accelerate even more extremism.  
And that’s why reaching out to civil society groups, clergy, and 
listening and asking, okay, what is it that we need to do in order to 
make sure that young people feel that they can succeed? What is it that 
we need to do to make sure that they feel that they’re fully a part of 
this country and are full citizens, and have full rights?  How do we do 
that?  Bringing them into plan and design messages and campaigns that 
embrace the diversity of these countries — those are the things that are
 so important to do.  
We still have to gain intelligence and engage in effective military 
and police campaigns to eradicate those who are so brainwashed that all 
you can do is incapacitate them.  But the question is constantly, how do
 we make sure that the recruitment of young people into these terrorist 
organizations, how do we cut off that flow?  And that requires more than
 just military efforts.  (Applause.)  
All right.  This young lady right here.  Yes, right here in the green
 and red.  Yes, you.  No, no, no right here.  Go ahead. No, no, no, 
right here in front.  Yes, you.  Yes, go ahead.  
Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  I’m from Kenya.  And I’m speaking on 
behalf of my brothers and sisters with albinism from Africa.  As you may
 know, Mr. President, persons with albinism in Africa are being killed 
and their body parts harvested for ritual purposes.  My request to you 
is to raise this issue with the heads of states from African countries 
to bring these atrocities to an end, for the benefit of for us in this 
room, and our brothers and sisters back in Africa.  Thank you.  
(Applause.)  
THE PRESIDENT:  Okay, good.  Thank you.  Well, can I just say the 
notion that any African would discriminate against somebody because of 
the color of their skin, after what black people around the world have 
gone through, is crazy.  (Applause.) It is infuriating and I have no 
patience for it.  
When I was in Africa, I said there are important traditions and 
folkways that need to be respected — that’s part of who each culture is,
 each country is.  But there’s also just foolish traditions — (applause)
 — and old ways of doing business that are based in ignorance.  And they
 need to stop.  And the idea that a society would visit violence on 
people because of pigmentation, that’s not a tradition that is worth 
preserving.  That’s tomfoolery.  That’s craziness.  It’s cruel. 
The same is true with practices like genital mutilation.  That just 
has to stop.  (Applause.)  You don’t do violence to young girls just 
because your great-grandfather or — because there’s no reason for it 
other than to suppress woman.  That’s the rationale.  That’s what it’s 
based on.  Bride abduction — bad tradition.  End it.  Beating women — 
not a good tradition.  (Applause.)  I don’t care that that used to be 
how things were done.  
Societies evolve based on new understandings and new science and new 
appreciation of who we are.  And so we can preserve great traditions — 
music, food, dance, language, art — but if there’s a tradition anywhere 
in Africa, or here in the United States, or anywhere in the world that 
involves treating people differently because you’re scared of them, or 
because you’re ignorant about them, or because you want to feel superior
 to them, it’s a bad tradition.  And you have to challenge it.  And you 
can’t accept excuses for it.
Grace was up here — you heard the power of Grace’s talking. Now, 
traditionally, people with disabilities are treated differently because 
people are ignorant.  And when — here in the United States, we passed 
the Americans Against With Disabilities Act.  And that opened up more 
opportunities, and suddenly there are ramps so people can access it, and
 there are computers and new technologies so that people who maybe 
couldn’t communicate before can communicate.  And it turns out there’s 
all this talent and brilliance, and people can do these things.  Well, 
then people’s attitudes have to change, and the societies have to 
change.  And that’s why young people are so important in changing 
attitudes.  
The same, by the way, is true for sexual orientation. (Applause.)  I 
spoke about this in Africa, and everybody is like, oh, oh, we don’t want
 to hear that.  (Laughter.)  But the truth of the matter is, is that if 
you’re treating people differently just because of who they love and who
 they are, then there’s a connection between that mindset and the 
mindset that led to racism, and the mindset that leads to ethnic 
conflict.  (Applause.)  It means that you’re not able to see somebody 
else as a human being.  
And so you can’t, on the one hand, complain when somebody else does 
that to you, and then you’re doing it to somebody else. You can’t do it.
  There’s got to be some consistency to how you think about these 
issues.  And that’s going to be up to young people — because old people 
get stuck in their ways.  (Laughter.)  They do.  They do.  And that’s 
true here in the United States.  
The truth of the matter is, is that when I started running for 
President, everybody said a black guy names Barack Obama, he’s not going
 to win the presidency of the United States.  (Laughter.)  But what I 
was banking on was the fact that with all the problems that still exist 
in the United States around racial attitudes, et cetera, things have 
changed, and young people and new generations had suddenly understood 
that, in Dr. King’s words, you have to be judged not by the color of 
your skin, but by the contents of your character.  
And that doesn’t mean that everything suddenly is perfect.  It just 
means that, young people, you can lead the way and set a good example.  
But it requires some courage, because the old thinking, people will push
 back at you.  And if you don’t have the convictions and the courage to 
be able to stand up for what you think is right, then cruelty will 
perpetuate itself.  
So you guys are on the spot.  If there’s one thing I want YALI 
leaders to come out with is that notion of you are strong by taking care
 of the people who are vulnerable, by looking after the minority, 
looking after the disabled, looking after the vulnerable.  You’re not 
strong by putting people down; you’re strong by lifting them up.  
(Applause.)  That’s the measure of a leader.
All right, how much time do we got?  I’ve only got time for one more 
question.  Now, first of all, the women — you’ve to put your hands down 
because I just asked a woman.  (Laughter.)  So it’s got to be a guy.  
And I promised I’d ask a guy in a suit.  (Laughter.)  I’m just going to 
ask this guy right here.  (Applause.)  Look at him, he’s all buttoning 
up.  He looks very sharp.
AUDIENCE MEMBER:  That’s my boy!  (Laughter.)    
Q    Thank you, Mr. President.  I’m from Nigeria.  Thank you.  I want
 to say we appreciate all the great work that the United States is doing
 with Nigeria and many other African countries, especially as it 
concerns infrastructure development policies and all of those.  But I’m 
of the opinion that if we do not make investment in education more than 
any other sector of the economy, then we are not building a sustainable 
partnership. (Applause.)  And I’m saying that with respect to the fact 
that we are all of the intellectual dream that Africa is experiencing.  
Due to the fact the grass seemed green on this side and then the United 
States attracts so many intellectuals, we should have stayed to 
development and grown these programs.
For example, recently, when you were in Kenya, you launched a project
 around power and energy.  I’m of the opinion that if that program is 
going to be successful and sustainable, then all of those programs 
should include the partnership of universities. (Applause.)  Because 
through that, we can build the capacity of universities, and then those 
countries can go around in other African countries replicating that.  So
 in that case, we can control the dream that is moving from Africa to 
the West, or to any other part of the country.  (Applause.)  
So I want to ask, what is the United States doing to control this 
intellectual dream to the Western world?  And what are you doing to 
increase, more than others, the investment in education so that our 
partnership and development can be truly sustainable? Thank you.  
(Applause.)  
THE PRESIDENT:  Okay, good.  That was good.  That was an excellent 
question.  It is an excellent question, but I’m going to reverse the 
question a little bit.  The question is not what is the United States 
doing to reverse the brain drain.  The question is, what are your 
countries doing to reverse the brain drain?  (Applause.) 
Now, many of you have friends who study overseas, they study in the 
West, and then they decide to stay instead of going back home.  Now, the
 United States, we are partnering with every country here.  I guarantee 
you there are programs to invest in education in your country.  There 
are programs to work with the universities in your countries.  I think 
you make an excellent point that on big projects like Power Africa, we 
should make sure that there is a capacity-building component.  And in 
fact, one of the things that’s been done with our development assistance
 that we’re providing is to emphasize capacity-building.
So, for example, our Feed the Future program, the goal is not to just
 keep on sending food forever.  The goal is teaching farmers to double 
or triple or quadruple their yields, which then gives them more income, 
which then allows them to buy maybe a tractor or to start a cooperative 
food-processing plant, that then accesses the market and the money gets 
reinvested, and now you’re building jobs and commerce inside the country
 as opposed to just being an aid recipient.  So I’m all about 
capacity-building.  
But ultimately, why is it that you have so many talented, 
well-educated young Africans leaving instead of staying?  Why is it that
 you have so many talented, well-educated people from the Middle East or
 parts of Asia, or Latin America who would rather live here than there? 
 
The issue is not just that we’re a wealthier country.  I think it’s 
fair to say — and you know better than I do — but part of it has to do 
with a young person’s assessment of can I succeed in applying my talents
 if, for example, the economy is still built on corruption so that I 
have to pay a bribe or be well-connected in order to start my business. 
 (Applause.)  Or are there still ethnic rivalries in the country, which 
means that if I’m from the wrong tribe, I’m less likely to advance.  Or 
is there still so much sexism in the country that if I’m a woman, then 
I’m expected just to be at home and be quiet, when I’m a trained doctor.
  Or is there a lack of rule of law or basic human rights and freedoms 
that make me feel as if I am restricted in what I can do.
I make this point to say that some of the brain drain is economic.  
But some of it has to do with people’s assessments of if I stay in my 
country, am I going to have the ability to succeed?  And that’s why, 
when I talk to leaders in Africa, or anywhere around the world, I say, 
look, if you put together the basics of rule of law and due process and 
democracy, and you’re able to keep peace so that there’s not conflict 
and constant danger, and the government is not corrupt, then even a poor
 country, you’re going to attract a lot of people who are going to want 
to live there because they’ll feel like they’re part of building 
something and are contributing something.
Because the one thing I’ve discovered is — right now, I live in a big
 house but it’s a lease, you know, I have to give it up in 18 months.  
(Laughter.)  A big house is nice for the first month — it’s like, well, 
this is a really big house.  (Laughter.)  Then, after about two months 
you realize, I can’t live in all these rooms.  (Laughter.)  My life is 
not appreciably better once I’ve got the basics.  And I think a lot of 
young Africans would be much more interested in staying even if they 
don’t have as big of a house, or the shopping malls aren’t as big, or — 
if they felt as if the basics are taken care of, I can keep my family 
safe, I can practice my profession, I’m not going to be discriminated 
against — (applause) — the government is well-meaning and 
well-intentioned and is not corrupt, and public investments are being 
made, then people I think would have a sense of meaning in their lives.
That doesn’t mean that there aren’t going to be some people who would
 still rather live in London or New York because they think they can 
make more money.  But I think that, as much as anything we do, is going 
to reverse the brain drain.  And that’s why what you do is going to be 
so important, because if you set a good example of going back home and 
rebuilding your country, and if you, as young leaders, are creating an 
environment in which young people can succeed and you’re setting a new 
set of expectations about how exciting it is to be part of something new
 — that can help turn the tide.
So, good luck.  (Applause.)  Thank you, everybody.  (Applause.)  
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